I had a great time talking with my old friends Dave Huerbin and Greg Yates on their podcast, Art Talk with G&D. We got into mysticism and abstract art, Jung and lucid dreaming, and all sorts of fun stuff.

Hilma af Klint, Untitled #1 / Emma Kunz, Kunsthaus Aarau

While it didn't necessarily fit into the episode, we also had a nice tangential discussion about states of consciousness and making art. For whatever reason, the language gets a little rough toward the end there. This is why we can't go to nice places.